Public reaction to India's AMCA project varies, with optimism about its potential overshadowed by skepticism regarding its originality, functionality, and execution timeline. Comparisons with established aircraft like the F-35 highlight concerns over design and technological capabilities. Doubts persist concerning India's ability to independently produce a competitive 5th-generation fighter, given past challenges with indigenous defense projects.

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It looks like an f22 mixed with an f35 and f15 is sprinkled in there somewhere as well

stay-frosty-67

I hope this takes off from the drawing board at least.

TimeVendor

Looks sick. But the tiny air intakes gonna be a nightmare for the mechanics who have to crawl in there vor pre/postflight checks

Comprehensive_View91

It's a scale model. First prototype is supposed to fly in 2025 and mass production by 2029.

Anurag6502

Entropico_ARG

If india finally manage to funnel all the engineers they graduate every year on the internal market they definitely have the potential to achieve great things.

The real problem is probably the infrastructure necessary to translate projects into reality

thepoddo

Oh fuck yes, i visited HAL museum in bangalore and they just had a literal "coming soon" sign on it, finally some good models on what to expect. Looks BADASS bois

big-boi-spoder-mann

[Previous designs](https://np.reddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/comments/klnemi/designs_for_hal_amca/?utm_medium=android_app&amp;utm_source=share)

As an advanced medium it can see very far into the future.

legsintheair

Put a little su-57 mix in f22 and you have AMCA

Randombully1o98

&gt;leds in the back

r/pcmasterrace aproves

DOOM_INTENSIFIES

KnightFury1212

the eots on the f-22 is not like that. Not a specialist, It might have a stealthy configuration with only internal pods I believe but not with that eots.

Crazy how stealth (and sometimes aerodynamics) makes the airplanes more beautiful whilst serving a precise technical function, usually it's either function or look/design.

wicktus

Are the engines going to be indigenous as well?

IR_88

rubicon1984

n365pa

SemiDesperado

Bojangly7

Me: mum I want F35

Mum: no we have F35 at home

This: *exists*

bob2013sherland

JustStargazin

This looks like what happens when an Mig-25 and a F-35 love each other very much.

Dies2much

I love India...but that’s no 5th gen fighter. At best a 4.5 gen fighter. India doesn’t have LPIR developed, no supercruise engine design, way behind in data fusion. Remember that India has less than 50 LCA in service after over 30 years of development and the LCA is terrible. I love make in India as a plan but they need corruption reduced and foreign expertise in aircraft manufacturing. India should do like the ROK did and assemble/produce the Rafael or F16/21 and learn from that. Otherwise this is just another LCA Or Arjun tank program.

banshee1776

Looks pretty neat. Only one criticism though: is that a LANTIRN-like pod? Would've been better if they'd just had integrated it into the airframe, F-35 style.

erhue

No country on earth has a fascination with things being "indigenous" like India.

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Vjigar

Doesn't look very advanced for an advanced fighter.

wow it looks awesome. I hope to fly it as a fighter pilot when I grow up

Demoblade

Is strapping on bare payload on the hard points okay for a 5th gen? I thought that’s why weapons bays and those pod like things in the 4th photo are needed.

FilthyImperial

I still think they should have stuck by Russia and their Su-57 program, I don’t doubt their ingenuity and capabilities, but they’d have a finished and capable product on their hands by now and it would be possibly even better with the Indian funding, I get the idea of indigenous projects, but it’s a shame the Su-57 got scaled back by how much it did, thing has potential

Phaeron_Cogboi

Just looks like some sort of concept model.

PROB40Airborne

Davescash

chunkymonk3y

bass3901927

So is that gonna compete with whatever the US comes up with, British Tempest, European (can’t remember the name).....then plus what the Russians and Chinese do. Doesn’t the Indian airforce usually import its aircraft ?? Am I wrong ??

thedarkknight787

They just squeezed an F-35 to make it smol and pointy 🙃

notostracan

Idhar kyu post karte ho bhai. Sirf negatively or criticism milta hai. First flight hone de phir post karenge

deadbody_42069

MJSB1994

Imagine if I built a car out of spare parts from 10 other cars and tried to pass it off as a new and unique design :).

What a mongrel.

Turbulent flow going into the engines too, yum.

Eastern_Eagle

Surprisingly small, makes me wonder if they're for future aircraft carriers

FwendyWendy

Definitely Russian "inspired" but very obviously without the design considerations that actually make those aircraft good. Especially in the intakes, hard point locations, cockpit location and canopy design. This is definitely not on the level of any real 5th gen fighter, it could maybe compete with some of the 4th gen offerings assuming the aerodynamic flaws arent fatal. Also the fake nuke under the left wing is hilarious.

teleterminal

intakes of F22, "center" fuselage and cockpit of F35, ass of SU-57.

hakdogwithcheese

Why? Does Pakistan even have fighter jets?

It needs to be at least 10x bigger. 

Or find some really small pilots

b4tby

gentlehufen

It is 21 march 2147. The belt rebels are bombing the orbital defenses of mars. The alien high council expresses their concern about the situation and are pondering an intervention.
The first flight of the 5th gen indian fighter jet prototype is delayed to 2149.

ultharim

From the article:

&gt;The Security Committee of the Cabinet of Ministers approved the budget needed to move forward with the development of the AMCA, India’s future fifth-generation fighter.

&gt;The AMCA (Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft) project, which aims to develop a fifth-generation, low-radar-signature, multi-role fighter, spawned after India abandoned its participation in the development of the Russian Sukhoi Su-57, received the green light from the Cabinet Committee on Security following the approval of a budget of Rs. 15. Billion rupees under which the Defense Research and Development Organization’s (DRDO) Aeronautics Development Agency will develop the aircraft and its technologies in collaboration with various public and private sector agencies.

&gt;The project includes the construction of up to 5 prototypes of the AMCA by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), expected to roll-out by 2026.

bob_the_impala

Dutch-VanDerPlan

They call anything 5th gen now a days. Lmaoo

chrisfemto_

What's the pro for twin engine midweight fighter?

WaterMirror21

I don't see the problem with having a similar design . Why forcefully make a new one for God's sake when the one which is in front of you works just fine . What is it gonna do with being unique , at the end all it matters is that it fulfills it's purpose , I don't see the need for something to have a unique design

Ambitious-Customer33

https://preview.redd.it/maocvx9iof3f1.png?width=1080&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=2034249af225701537f935488633366a4165a8e5

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HAL_AMCA

I pray everything goes according to plan and we see this thing rule the skies 🙏

Professional-Door824

Private players need to be involved, otherwise it will end up being what became of Tejas. Remember, the Tejas program went into the execution phase back in 1984.

Flaky_Entertainer526

Kaveri engine ko blue light bhi dedo peeche se

kalyan_ka_hero

&gt; While the execution model has now been formally approved, the clock is ticking on what will be India's most technologically demanding aviation programme to date.

We'll see. I predicting 2045-50

aaffpp

Waste of money and time. Future wars will be fought by swarms of drones not expensive fighter aircraft

delicatefucker

Interesting information.  Always preferred two engines for carrier suitable aircraft.  Pix #3 seems to have a lot of Rafale vibes...which would be a good thing...

Gilmere

Aww hell nahhh they let a Jeff and a Rafale get steamy

T65Bx

Sometimes I really wonder why HAL and ADA think they can handle 4 different projects (LCA (Light combat aircraft) Tejas mk1A, Tejas mk2, TEDBF (Twin engine deck based fighter) and AMCA (Advanced medium combat aircraft) at the same time while the Tejas alone has taken 40 years to develop.

Akt2311

How different is it from the Tejas which is currently deployed? And any news on the development of India's 5th gen fighter? They showed it's model in some expo.

Thats a rafale(lookalike) .. and i do think they allready own those.

Ronerus79

TEDBF seems a lot like a Rafale but with extra steps.

Paladin_127

Thaiguy559

What world we live in.

Turkey choosing a Heavy weight fighter and India choosing a medium weight for its stealth. And the Turkish one is rolling out soon!

DesReson

This is just a shape.  The shape of the airframe is somewhat irrelevant i.e. the easiest thing about 5th gen to accomplish.  The true magic of 5th gen is about the material of the skin and the software and hardware under the surface.

black-rhombus

India: We want F35

Also India: We have F35 at home

What are the chances this’ll turn out within budget, timeframe and match it’s stated capacity?

Evilutionist

How is the prototype going? I saw the first parts a half year ago, it should come to an end soon.

Mois42

So it’s basically a twin-engine F-35? Like that camo pattern though

saberofnight

Man, the J-20 is so original compared to this, TFX, KFX, etc.

woolcoat

Mom, I want fat amy!
Mom: We have fat amy at home.
Fat amy at home.

KainHighwind57

Kinda sad to see every new fighter jet now looks like a copy of the F-22/35, maybe except the J-20 and Su-57. There's no variety anymore, but I guess that's just the most effective design (so far). I wonder how will the NGAD, F/A-XX and FCAS turn out tho.

ciechan-96-

I can smell the lockmart lawsuit from here

AMRAAMazon_Prime

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Vildhorn

look like a Su-75 + F-35 IMO but with extra long nose

Rock_cop

11hydroxymetabokite

-mom, can we get F-35?
-we have F-35 at home.
F-35 at home:

SauciflonLB

Cant even built a decent 4th gen aircraft with plenty of foreign supplies and theyr gonna build a fifth gen now lol

Killer-within

Tejas is still in development 30 years later. 

India should just buy the F-35.

BlackDiamondDee

Don't get me wrong it's good looking, but come on why does everyone copy the f22

stormlord505

I’ll bet it’s got great tech support!

Character-Release-62

Awww the Indians are feeling left out with the TFX and KF-21 coming along with prototypes on the factory floor/flying.

Sakurasou7

Subject-Concern-9663

I don’t like 5th gens, they are all the same looking

Honest_Seth

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